Subject	I agree.
Posted by	Dallas DamonZ on October 02, 2008 at 11:56 AM
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In Reply To	Where in here do you see... posted by CameronSF on October 02, 2008 at 11:39 AM
Message	While the Z was pretty expensive @ 45k which put it out of reach of the mid/high end consumer and killed sales, the GTR price point caters to a much more affluent crowd that's still able to live a 'luxury' lifestyle. Also, the GTR isn't being mass manufactured like the Z was back then. Nissan was expecting continued volume sales on the Z and didn't get them. The GTR isn't programmed the same way for sales. In the big scheme of things, having a few sitting around waiting for sales doesn't impact Nissan's bottom line as much as the lack of Z32 sales did. But Nissan thinks like Nissan and not like Porsche, so there's still the possibility they won't leave it out there and let it ride in smaller qts. Later "If A equals success, then the formula is: A = X + Y + Z, X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." - Albert Einstein When was the last time you *really* did something with your Z to call yourself a Z enthusiast? Member #1 PETZ
Follow Ups	Long Read : If you want a the New GTR -- I doubt Nissan will - The Devils Z 11:07:40 10/02/08 the worst part is the people that lose their jobs - CRAZZEPETE. 11:24:42 10/02/08 This is correct. I work at an auto manufacturing plant, and - WoodmanZ 12:40:05 10/02/08 Toyota should be attributing their drop in sales to their - Inzane 11:34:58 10/02/08 2nd. (n/m) - MixManMash 11:47:36 10/02/08 Nissan isn't far behind. - Dallas DamonZ 11:50:35 10/02/08 New Maxima is nice, IMO, except the fish hook headlights (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 11:55:53 10/02/08 Ant the 2 door altima 3.5 is a good looking car, too. (n/m) - rufflez 11:59:19 10/02/08 Doesn't do anything for me. - Dallas DamonZ 12:02:50 10/02/08 I'm not a big fan of the back end either. (n/m) - WoodmanZ 13:02:55 10/02/08 3rd. (n/m) - Inzane 13:45:47 10/02/08 CVT FTL (n/m) - aliaZ 12:07:49 10/02/08 RIP manual transmission. :-( (n/m) - Inzane 12:22:43 10/02/08 2nd. Unless you are the average person who doesn't care and - MixManMash 12:32:59 10/02/08 My entire garage is full of Nissans at the moment. - Inzane 12:17:17 10/02/08 true on the more fun to drive part, but can't beat Toyota's - CHUNG (Dallas) 12:23:06 10/02/08 True, but that wasn't the point I was arguing two posts back - Inzane 12:27:12 10/02/08 Were you arguing? That was a fact! BUT... - CHUNG (Dallas) 14:20:03 10/02/08 Well, enjoy your Toyota. Me, I'll be going the opposite - Inzane 14:38:14 10/02/08 Definitely true on the resale value. - MixManMash 12:32:01 10/02/08 reliability - overall built and finishing quality. - CHUNG (Dallas) 14:12:46 10/02/08 Fair enough. You would obviously know! (n/m) - MixManMash 17:44:54 10/02/08 I dunno. I think I would actually get a new Corolla over - MixManMash 12:30:36 10/02/08 Dunno either, I haven't actually driven a B16 Sentra yet. - Inzane 12:37:46 10/02/08 I drove a B16. It sucked bad. I'll take a B13/B14 SE-R. - MixManMash 12:55:11 10/02/08 Well, don't do that TOO often next year. I'm anxious to see - Inzane 13:11:08 10/02/08 Well, if all goes well tonight, you might see a 530BB'd TTZ - MixManMash 13:24:01 10/02/08 Mazda 3 5 door or whatever they call it - ZXRider(SoCal) 12:58:38 10/02/08 Try to argue that with my woman,she hates that damn car haha (n/m) - lakerdude42 13:10:25 10/02/08 my speed 3 made 312 whp with intake exhaust and AP - ztunerz 08:50:49 10/03/08 But the Tundras are a hell of a lot of fun to drive. Lot's - ChrisZTT (Sacto, CA) 16:07:48 10/02/08 My garage and road spots are full of Nissans. ;) - Scotts94z32 16:10:51 10/02/08 I hate my 03 Se-R and it only has 47k on the clock - ImTheDevil 09:13:48 10/03/08 That's too bad. I've had my '01 SE going on 8 years and its - Inzane 09:21:45 10/03/08 The 370Z is gonna be debuted at the LA Auto Show this year. - apudapus 12:59:55 10/02/08 How is that show? - rojoloco (San Diego) 18:26:58 10/02/08 Where in here do you see... - CameronSF 11:39:05 10/02/08 those folks tend to be less in quantity and spend less - The Devils Z 11:50:33 10/02/08 the 95+ wing is what ruined it. - aliaZ 12:06:40 10/02/08 agreed (n/m) - The Devils Z 12:16:07 10/02/08 2nd. (n/m) - CameronSF 14:35:43 10/02/08 Luxury items tend to suffer less through economic hardships (n/m) - zboost(NoVA) 13:50:03 10/02/08 Not true --inelastic items tend to suffer less (n/m) - The Devils Z 21:26:41 10/02/08 I agree. - Dallas DamonZ 11:56:57 10/02/08 You bring up good points and time will tell .. I see - The Devils Z 12:17:57 10/02/08 Again with the southeast thing...there is gas here - dogpile 12:42:20 10/02/08 point taken -- but you get the spirit (n/m) - The Devils Z 13:41:24 10/02/08 I do, but my panties are all knotted up today. (n/m) - dogpile 14:42:08 10/02/08 Gas prices are high which is why you see that. - Only1Z 09:39:11 10/03/08 GTR is geared toward people that know what a sport car is. - DVDBURN (MD) 13:52:32 10/02/08 The GTR is geared towards people who have no sense of - Inzane 14:46:37 10/02/08 lol (n/m) - DVDBURN (MD) 15:30:52 10/02/08 I disagree...GTR is geared towards people... - CameronSF 15:38:50 10/02/08 for 75k + ..most of the affluent would rather say they - The Devils Z 21:29:17 10/02/08 But most don't think of it that way. - Dallas DamonZ 22:10:55 10/02/08 slight retraction because I forgot to disclaim this... - Dallas DamonZ 22:18:37 10/02/08 Michael Jackson, chief executive of AutoNation Inc. - Keatonus 12:18:30 10/02/08 I know the exact Toyota dealer they are talking about in - 5280Z_nightstalker 12:42:27 10/02/08 I love how the media expects every companies sales to - ENVYMYZ 12:46:19 10/02/08 I agree somewhat, but compared to last years vehicle sales, - WoodmanZ 12:53:08 10/02/08 Let me explain to you what's about to happen - lazer(AK) 14:08:01 10/02/08 Hit and miss, - Z_Cherub 15:49:35 10/02/08 I disagree - lazer(AK) 16:13:47 10/02/08 Wow, I don't know where to start. - Z_Cherub 21:27:41 10/02/08 So let's see, it's harder to get a loan nowadays - en5 14:13:30 10/02/08 The Numbers - Got Z? 14:58:44 10/02/08 That's because they have a decent lineup of engines>> - racer2fst 15:34:34 10/02/08 True, but it's not just the engines. - Got Z? 19:16:57 10/02/08 I have to admit,I'm also a bit biased>>> - racer2fst 20:02:05 10/02/08
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